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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode Number 421 for the 13th of

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November 2016 and yes I'm surprised too

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I'm surprised Henrietta and more the

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skeptic zone cats are also surprised the

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people down the street are surprised I

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bet you're surprised we got to be

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talking about the success of Donald

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Trump coming up at the top of the show

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and we chat to Evan Bernstein from the

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skeptics guide to the universe now like

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the skeptics guide to the universe

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podcast the skeptic zone podcast is not

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a political podcast we won't tell you

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who to vote for necessarily I mean it's

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just not where we're coming from where

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for science and reason and skeptical

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investigation and strange things but i

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thought i chat to evan because i am

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interested or concerned or both about

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the future prospects for science and

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education in the united states under a

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trump presidency and evan bernstein

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being a very old friend and somebody

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with his finger on the pulse he is just

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the man to talk to so coming up at the

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top of the show of view from America

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Evan Bernstein chatting about the

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possible ramifications for science and

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reason with a trump presidency following

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that we're going to look at another

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strange new age energy last week we were

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looking at Oregon energy or some

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somebody wrote to me or go or gone I

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wish it was all gone something like that

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this week it's something called scalar

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energy scale our energy and a government

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warning the Australian Government here

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in Australia if I can put it that way

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has issued a warning about scalar energy

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pendants because believe it or not they

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are radioactive so some people are

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getting a lot more than they bargained

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for with these new age or if we'd like

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to say new each pendants find out what

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scale our energy is and all about the

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government health warning and some of

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the amazing claims made for scalar

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energy coming up a bit later on in the

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show and to round off the show another

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in the series of interviews

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by our reporter Iran Segev who's also

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the president of Australian skeptics

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from the recent QED conference in

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Manchester and this week Iran chats to

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none other than captain disillusion now

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I had the great pleasure of meeting

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captain disillusion who way back in 2009

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I think at an amazing meeting and we got

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on like a house on fire what a wonderful

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bloke really interesting really smart

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and he knows more about video

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manipulation than I've had hot dinners I

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think if I can put it that way maybe

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that's the scalar energy I don't know

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coming up an interview with captain

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disillusion a big thank you to my

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friends at the National Geographic

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Channel who who kindly gave me a couple

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of tickets to see Buzz Aldrin talking or

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some other scientists about a possible

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trip to Mars Wow wasn't that wasn't that

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interesting to hear first hand tales of

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being on the moon that was just riveting

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and a little things like Buzz Aldrin

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talking about when they came back into

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the lunar lander from wandering about

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the moon the fact that they were

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tracking in moon dust on their boots and

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the moon dust would be in the in the

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capsule itself and when they pressurized

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again they could smell it they could

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smell the moon dust and he said it had a

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sort of a burnt smell about it you just

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to hear somebody who's been on the moon

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chatting about those things firsthand

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was just amazing and if there are any

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other future things brought to us by the

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people at National Geographic we shall

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keep you informed now here's a note from

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an old friend of mine Gary Dalrymple who

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runs a freak on a free science fiction

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and fantasy festival here in Sydney and

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this year the freak on will be on the

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ninth tenth and eleventh of December

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held at 188 william street in earlwood

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suburb of sydney and for those of you

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who know the area it's near the bexley

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road William Street intersection now if

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you want to take part in this freaking

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Gary I will leave a link in this week's

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show notes i had the pleasure of

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speaking there a couple of years ago or

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number of years ago at freak on giving

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um giving an overview of one of the

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amazing meeting million-dollar tests i

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was involved with so it was a great

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great fun so if you're interested in a

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free science fiction and fantasy

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convention here in sydney freak on maybe

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for you on the 9th 10th 11th of december

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this year but now it's time for me to

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run downstairs and have some miso soup

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and teriyaki chicken oh man is that good

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I remember I was in my early 20s yeah

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early 20s I think when somebody who I

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the first time and after the initial

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getting used to the taste I became a big

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fan as many of you know the sushi the

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sashimi the sushi train sort of idea as

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is very popular around the world I would

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imagine but I do remember the first time

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unusual taste but yes it didn't take

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long it didn't take long and I used to

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have with sake heaven and sake for many

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years hmm I'm sorry I'm drifting away

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into foodland while I do that I hope you

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and joining me now all the way from the

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United States with a view from America

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it's my old friend and member of course

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of the SGU Evan Bernstein hello Evan

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g'day Richard oh you're learning

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Australian hut I thought that yes I

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purposefully tried to sound like The

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Ugly American do trying to do an

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Australian accent there I hope I passed

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the audition you did you did I think you

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it seems to be a lot of that going

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around these days yes let's let's cut to

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the chase now there are many things we

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can talk about in relation to the

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political situation in the United States

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with the election of Donald Trump and

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there's just no other way of saying it

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you know President Obama said something

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which I thought was very wise he said in

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his last two competitive campaigns while

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he didn't agree with his opponent and he

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obviously thought that he had the better

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argument he knew his opponent would make

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a fine president if they got that far

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and earlier a couple of months ago he

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was expressing he wasn't expressing the

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same confidence in Donald Trump that's

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right I think yeah interesting

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observation there we could dwell on

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aspects of Donald Trump like his

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derogatory comments towards women and

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minorities and this disabled and his

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general view on things but what I wanted

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to do with you is chat briefly from your

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perspective about Trump's or what what's

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the likelihood or the possibilities will

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trump when it comes to science and

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education because that's at the core

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certainly what the skeptic zone is all

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about and I'm sure it's a one of the

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priorities of the skeptics guide to the

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universe as well so putting aside those

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other important issues for another time

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or other people to to chat about what

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from your perspective having lived

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through this for some time

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now where do you think he's coming from

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if he promises to do what he says he's

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speeches he's given or what he said in

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the debates with Hillary Clinton then

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concerned I won't go as far as panicked

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though which is sort of the reaction

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that a lot of people have about a lot of

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issues with Donald Trump sort of

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election mmm but once the smoke and

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everything does clear and the emotions

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kind of wind down there are very

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legitimate things to to be concerned

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about with with some of the things that

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he has said as listeners of the of also

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the skeptics guide to the universe cool

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talked about this very briefly we really

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don't have much of a choice to sort of

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reserve other than to reserve judgment

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to see what he actually follows through

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with in those promises that he made

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funny habit of often going against or

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different from what they say during the

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course of a campaign and that is due to

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a lot of factors and sometimes that

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works well and sometimes it works worse

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um yeah but so we're going to have to

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really kind of wait and see but yeah

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there is it needs to be kept an eye on

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in fact a very close eye on and all of

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organizations and otherwise have a

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responsibility to keep good track of

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best as we can on what is going and what

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is happening as it happens yeah I think

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that's absolutely right and there's a

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very huge groundswell of negativity of

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this as well partly I must say due to

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whatever it is the the bubble effect or

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the Facebook effect where you are

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constantly being fed news and opinions

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opinions and that's that can be very

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problematic but you are right i mean we

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have to wait to actually see what

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policies he puts in place so what he can

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promises and then they have to rethink

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things once they're in office but in the

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case of Donald Trump he made such

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extravagant promises that it fails me to

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see how how they could possibly come

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about oh and this is the reason for

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concern Richard and this is why we have

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to really keep very close eye on it and

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make sure that when these I when these

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ideas do come through or the people that

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he decides to surround himself with come

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up with regulate what you know

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suggestions for regulations or whatever

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make law is that we have to be ready

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with a response to all of this and we

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ahead of time or be ready for and that

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is there are lots of different ways to

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have congressman I mean it's not just

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the president there are our house of

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representatives which we all have you

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without with our our representatives in

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an impact so we not only need to keep an

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eye on what Trump and his administration

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are going to be saying and doing but

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what also happens in the other areas of

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our government that you know frankly

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pull have the purse strings and a lot of

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well yes we do have to look to all

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aspects of the what Donald Trump will be

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doing because of course what happens in

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the United States affects the rest of

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the world and Australia is not immune to

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that during a huge interest here from

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government to business to every level of

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society because it is we are so

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intertwined not to mention the strong

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partnership Australian the United States

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have enjoyed over decades and decades

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and decades but we might you know if

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there's a silver lining to

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cloudy president Trump might wake up one

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day and say well let's put a lot of more

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money into NASA and go back to the moon

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just for the hell of it or something

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crazy like that which could bring us

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good results it is an unknown yeah it is

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an unknown it's a good point about NASA

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and exploring the moon those are you

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know obviously things that I feel very

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strongly about both in the affirmative

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and yeah I I think there should be more

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resources going that I think there

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should be going I think overall there

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should be more resources dedicated to

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all the sciences across the board

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approve everything that federal and

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state governments universities and there

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and and all the other layers of our you

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know organized scientific system is if

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that's what you can call it because they

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all going to play a part they're all

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going to be part of the solution for the

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real problems that we have and we have

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to be serious about this and you know we

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one can hope and if you so choose pray

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that your executive administration and

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for the next four years will show some

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level of reasonability when it comes to

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these things I think I think we can't

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set our hopes too high for that because

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we'll be hopefully hopelessly

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disappointed if we we decide to put too

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much faith in Trump or any other one

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politician well yes yeah we have to you

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know we have to keep level-headed at the

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same time and also I think as you

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alluded to earlier Richard not that our

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emotions sort of get the better of us

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and and obfuscate us from you know what

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we're really trying to do here we're

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gonna have to work harder basically i

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think is what it comes down to harder

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than we've worked in the past years in

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which we you know we're under an

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administration which by comparison to to

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what we expect of a Donald Trump will be

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a much more much have been a much more

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science friendly administration than

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what we have coming on the horizon yeah

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I think we'll have to put our retirement

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plans on the shelf for a little while

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longer Evan I'm afraid hahaha retirement

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plans that's a good one today I'm gonna

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write that down and I know you next year

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you were looking forward to coming out

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here we could go fishing together for

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crocodiles but you know let's just put

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that off for a couple

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use well I'll tell you what any time

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spent with you and getting back to

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Australia is always worth it Richard so

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even if I have to bite my time and do a

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little more work on this end to get

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there it's worth it well thank you for

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that Evan it's good to have a view from

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the United States so somebody who's in

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the middle of it in the thick of it

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almost started to speak and well the

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whole world will be certainly watching

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with interest what happens over the next

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months and years oh definitely doc don't

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panic though folks I mean I don't think

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you need to panic that would be

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counterproductive so thank you Richard I

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think you're right for now Evan and we

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might catch up again before too long to

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see how things are going anytime just

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let me know thank you take care hi this

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is Heidi Robertson from the Northern

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Rivers vaccination supporters we are a

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group of concerned citizens dedicated to

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promoting good science and common sense

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South Wales this area are famous for its

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natural beauty and relaxed lifestyle

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also has the lowest rates of vaccination

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in Australia we are out to change that

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by challenging the myths and

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misinformation and by providing good

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evidence based information to the

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community we'd love for you no matter

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where you are in the world to join our

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fight please visit our webpage at ww

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nrvs info we also have a link there to

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our facebook page tweet us at in our fax

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supporters that's VA

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and check us out on Wikipedia by

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searching for Northern Rivers

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vaccination supporters thank you last

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week on the show we mentioned orgone

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energy the weird energy that brought

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Peter Brock sort of undone when he tried

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to pedal a device using orgone energy in

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in cars to make them go better what I

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didn't mention at the time is another

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aspect of all gone energy the name comes

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from all gasp believe it or not and I'll

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let you do your own research on that

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today I'm going to be looking at

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something called scalar energy and this

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is something I've seen around for many

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years at the mind-body wallet festival

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although not lately not the last year or

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so I don't think I've seen scalar maybe

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it's not as popular as it once was and a

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company called fusion XL that we're

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selling products like pendants and

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flasks you fill with water or to do with

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but what is a scalar energy well it's a

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bit of a nonsense really as you might

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suspect having to do with the new age

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and this sort of thing so I've let my

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fingers do the walking over my keyboard

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and I put in the question what a scale

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our energy and from the website Korra

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calm and I will provide a link what is

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the definition of scale our energy and

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one of the answers posted the scale

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Abbott a quantity can be a vector or a

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scalar a scalar is a quantity that has

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size for example the speed of a car can

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be 60 kilometers an hour that is a

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scalar the vector is a quantity that has

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the size and a direction for example the

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velocity of a car might be 60 kilometers

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an hour to East this is a vector the

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energy bit energy is a quantity that can

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be turned into many different forms

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kinetic energy is related to how an

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object is moving potential energy is

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related to how much work something can

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do etc the total energy in a system that

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has no contact with the outside world is

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constant which makes energy very useful

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as a bookkeeping tool energy is always a

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scalar energy is always a scalar so a

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serious scientist wouldn't say quote

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scalar energy and quote because there's

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no need to say it's scalar and here is

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an answer posted it answers.yahoo.com

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there may actually be a scientific

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problem in combining scalar with energy

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and have a personal problem with the

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combined term here is why the term

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scalar comes principally from the

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analysis of mechanics in the study of

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physics scalar is an attribute placed on

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a measurement in science that simply

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identifies a magnitude without any

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reference to a direction for instance

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mass volume speed and temperature are

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all parameters when measured and are

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referenced as being scalar quantities to

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make things more clear consider the

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opposite of the scalar which is vector a

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vector quantity is a parameter having

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both

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magnitude and direction for instance

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force velocity acceleration talk

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electric and magnetic fields our all

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parameters under study are treated as

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vector quantities energy on the other

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hand is considered to be anything that

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can change the condition of matter or

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the ability to do work energy is a

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complex subject and is not a thing but

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both a thing in a process akin to a word

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being both a noun and a verb energy can

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be studied without consideration for

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direction which is the principal

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difference between a scalar and a vector

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quantity so to sum up it's really not

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appropriate to be put scalar and energy

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together unless unless you're using it

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for marketing unless you want to make a

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word salad unless you think it sounds

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sciency now scalar energy has been

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picked up by Love New Age sort of

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thinking people it's like like all these

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weird energies it can do everything you

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scale our energy in a device and that

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will well the possibilities are endless

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it'll certainly improve your balance

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your strength your flexibility as per

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those body balanced tests but it also

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will infuse water with mystical

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properties or make your coffee tastes

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better or no end of no into things and

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just looking quickly online there are

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many many references to scale our energy

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some of these search results coming up

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scalar energy a complete new world is

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possible the founding father of scalar

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energy Nicola Tesla oh boy DNA gateway

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to scalar energy based healing I think

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you get the idea but what surprised me

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just the other day when I was doing a

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bit of research into this scalar energy

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was one of the results that popped up

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was a government health warning about

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the quantum pendants and these things

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I've seen years ago at mind-body wallet

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and the claim made to me at the time was

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these little penance you wear around

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your neck were made from volcanic ash

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and to me that just sounded like another

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yet another

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claim put in to sound exotic or somehow

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mystical or or just a nice sexy

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marketing term well it turns out that

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whatever they are made out of and it

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could be volcanic ash in fact it turns

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out the material is radioactive now

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radioactive to a small degree but

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radioactive nevertheless and so we come

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to the warning from the Australian

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Government from ww arp ANS egg of the

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day you published august 2016 australian

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government australian radiation

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protection and nuclear safety agency

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product warning scalar energy pendants

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and health wearing a scalar energy

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pendant will increase your radiation

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exposure scalar energy pendants are an

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alternative medicine product the

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manufacturers of scalar energy pendent

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state that dependence are made of

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volcanic materials and make claims of a

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number of health benefits including

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improved circulation improved stamina

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and improved flexibility similar

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pendants may also be labeled as quantum

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energy or quantum science what is the

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hazard arp a NSA has confirmed the

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presence of radioactive material in

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these pendants in particular the

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naturally-occurring radioisotopes of

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uranium-238 and thorium 232 these

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pendants emit alpha beta and gamma

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radiation the alpha particles are mostly

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absorbed within the material and pose no

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threat to the health of the wearer the

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beta particles from pens worn close to

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the body will only penetrate a short

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distance into tissue and will be mostly

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absorbed in the skin the gamma particles

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emitted will penetrate over a large area

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of tissue ARP a NSA has assessed that

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the whole body radiation

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does to an individual wearing one of

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these pendants is likely to be low the

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estimates of a dose are considerably

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less then doses received by the

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australian population from radiation

548
00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:18,740
found naturally in our environment

549
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:21,240
however these products in particular

550
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:24,690
wearing pendants continuously have the

551
00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:27,240
potential to give an elevated skin dose

552
00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:30,270
due to beta radiation exposure and

553
00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:32,940
limiting exposure should be considered

554
00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:37,470
what should you do ARP a NSA advises

555
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:39,390
consumers that these items contain

556
00:25:44,690 --> 00:25:41,940
naturally occurring radioactive material

557
00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:44,700
that can result in additional radiation

558
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:47,820
exposures that offer no established

559
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:51,450
evidence-based benefits if you still

560
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:53,130
wish to wear or use one of these

561
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:55,770
products it is advised to limit your

562
00:26:02,750 --> 00:25:58,770
skin dose via beta radiation exposure by

563
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:02,760
one limiting the time you are in contact

564
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:06,720
with or where the product to increase

565
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:10,320
your distance from the product 3 wearing

566
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:13,890
the pendant over clothing and that

567
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:15,570
product warning comes to us from the

568
00:26:20,030 --> 00:26:17,820
Australian Government Australian

569
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:20,040
radiation protection and nuclear safety

570
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:23,450
agency now it's possible that the

571
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:26,070
Australian Government discovered that

572
00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:29,250
these things were radioactive by various

573
00:26:38,690 --> 00:26:33,990
online videos and looking at the youtube

574
00:26:42,530 --> 00:26:38,700
channel of antiprotons and his video the

575
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:42,540
quantum pendant we see he has tested

576
00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:44,580
this pendant with a Geiger counter and

577
00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:46,380
I'll just play a little bit of audio

578
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:49,260
from that let's see how the Geiger

579
00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:50,930
counter reacts well first let's put a

580
00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:53,190
quantum pendant I can't up saying that

581
00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:55,020
drives me nuts I don't know what they

582
00:26:59,690 --> 00:26:58,260
mean by scalar energy anyway that's not

583
00:27:01,010 --> 00:26:59,700
really anything I've ever heard of

584
00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:01,020
because all I deal with is you know

585
00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:05,670
physics but whatever cut on the sound

586
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:07,820
I'll see what we get in this area right

587
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:13,529
in fact see can I put this on anything

588
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:16,090
and let's put this right here there we

589
00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:20,169
go so there you go this is the area due

590
00:27:26,970 --> 00:27:24,100
to do 38 nothing amazing now put the

591
00:27:36,529 --> 00:27:26,980
quantum pendant with quantum scalar

592
00:27:40,739 --> 00:27:36,539
energy order I look at my particular

593
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:40,749
pendant happens to be radioactive I of

594
00:27:45,659 --> 00:27:42,610
course am in no way speaking of any

595
00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:45,669
other ones for legal purposes but I do

596
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:48,340
know that mine is radioactive how do i

597
00:27:53,789 --> 00:27:50,369
know because i have two independent

598
00:27:58,739 --> 00:27:53,799
calibrated radiation detectors which

599
00:28:01,200 --> 00:27:58,749
both say it is why is it radioactive i

600
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:01,210
don't know personally i'm not going to

601
00:28:04,859 --> 00:28:02,769
wear it because i have a this weird

602
00:28:07,259 --> 00:28:04,869
problem I don't seem to like to put

603
00:28:09,299 --> 00:28:07,269
radioactive things around my neck it

604
00:28:13,739 --> 00:28:09,309
feels somehow like a bad idea but that's

605
00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:13,749
my own personal belief and that video

606
00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:15,700
that little clip from that video that's

607
00:28:21,619 --> 00:28:18,070
not the only video out there where

608
00:28:25,230 --> 00:28:21,629
people are testing this quantum scalar

609
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:25,240
pendant now I'll read from a flyer I

610
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:26,950
picked up many years ago from a company

611
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:30,369
called fusion XL who make little

612
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:32,529
pendants and things or at least market

613
00:28:38,609 --> 00:28:36,129
them we have the promise of increased

614
00:28:40,169 --> 00:28:38,619
balance strength flexibility the same

615
00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:40,179
sort of thing the old power balance

616
00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:42,580
people were doing and indeed when i came

617
00:28:46,590 --> 00:28:44,470
across their stall many years ago they

618
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:46,600
were doing the same sort of body balance

619
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:49,929
routines and i'll link to a video i made

620
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:51,970
on the subject in this week's show notes

621
00:28:55,409 --> 00:28:53,769
how to do these tricks these body

622
00:28:58,109 --> 00:28:55,419
balance tricks and they're still going

623
00:29:00,899 --> 00:28:58,119
on i saw one just a couple of weeks ago

624
00:29:02,989 --> 00:29:00,909
at mind-body wallet here in sydney

625
00:29:07,399 --> 00:29:02,999
another company doing similar things

626
00:29:12,029 --> 00:29:07,409
anyway from this flyer bioenergy

627
00:29:15,239 --> 00:29:12,039
synthesis technology trademark and i'll

628
00:29:17,999 --> 00:29:15,249
try to read this verbatim if it sounds a

629
00:29:21,419 --> 00:29:18,009
bit odd you'll understand why what is

630
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:21,429
scalar energy scalar energy is a subtle

631
00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:23,980
energy that can be harnessed to produce

632
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:24,760
healing

633
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:27,430
energy frequencies that can be through

634
00:29:34,550 --> 00:29:29,650
while experimenting with violently

635
00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:34,560
abrupt direct current electrical charges

636
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:38,550
has existed since the beginning of time

637
00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:41,980
benefits of scalar energy eliminates the

638
00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:44,680
negative effects level of man-made

639
00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:48,340
frequency / radioactive TV cellphones

640
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:51,100
electric cable and computer scalar

641
00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:52,870
energy frequencies will neutralize

642
00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:55,150
man-made frequencies to harmless

643
00:30:04,200 --> 00:29:58,510
frequencies to human increasing every

644
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:04,210
cell level to 70 to 90 mini volts 70 to

645
00:30:10,530 --> 00:30:06,850
90 mini volts are the healthy cell in

646
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:10,540
our body relieve fatigue tightness and

647
00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:14,110
rightly when sick or tired these charges

648
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:18,190
will decrease scalar energy will help

649
00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:20,890
energize our cell back to healthy state

650
00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:23,680
and remain the electrical charges thus

651
00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:26,860
we will feel less fatigue tiredness and

652
00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:31,480
rigidity after work protect cells DNA

653
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,840
from damage and prevent cancer cell well

654
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:36,640
isn't that interesting folks I've had

655
00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:40,690
this on my files for years as I have

656
00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:43,780
thousands of other documents but unless

657
00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:47,430
one reads it carefully line by line I

658
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:51,160
cancer claim that's interesting that has

659
00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:52,930
legal ramifications but I don't even

660
00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:54,460
know if these people are still going in

661
00:30:59,820 --> 00:30:57,520
this country anyway we read on DNA's

662
00:31:03,090 --> 00:30:59,830
particles are connecting with each other

663
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:03,100
in hydrogen bonds when hydrogen bonds of

664
00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:06,160
DNA damage some of dnase particles will

665
00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:09,190
lose out and become cancer cells scalar

666
00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:12,100
energy able to imprint in human DNA and

667
00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:14,740
protect hydrogen bond from damage by

668
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:17,550
increasing its energy enhance

669
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:20,320
detoxification and nutrient uptake

670
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:23,730
process like sugar diabetes cholesterol

671
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:27,850
oil hypertension toxin enhance system

672
00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:30,490
absorber vitamin from foods and drink

673
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:32,980
and increase system detoxification of

674
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:36,340
chemicals of food and drinks when cell

675
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,590
is running detoxification and

676
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:40,960
an uptake process it needs to go through

677
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:43,750
cell wall the higher the cell wall

678
00:31:48,750 --> 00:31:46,450
permeability the easier the Vidocq

679
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:48,760
suffocation and nutrient uptake process

680
00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:52,000
function we will become healthier when a

681
00:31:57,899 --> 00:31:53,980
cell uptake through nutrient and

682
00:32:00,899 --> 00:31:57,909
detoxify all waste from cell strength

683
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:00,909
and body immune system when the cell

684
00:32:07,950 --> 00:32:04,770
gets enough energy 70 to 90 mini volts

685
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:07,960
detoxify and nutrient uptake process is

686
00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:10,960
functioning at best state the cell will

687
00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:13,240
become healthy cells when cells are

688
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:15,940
healthy they are able to fight against

689
00:32:21,299 --> 00:32:18,640
bacteria in our body direct our body

690
00:32:25,289 --> 00:32:21,309
immune system is strengthening bear with

691
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:25,299
me folks there's more cleanses the blood

692
00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:28,720
and improve blood profile improve mental

693
00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:32,520
focus and helps regulate Bloods pressure

694
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:35,500
strengthens immune functions up to one

695
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,289
hundred and forty-nine percent prevents

696
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:41,200
or reverses cancer cells there it is

697
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:43,390
again isn't that interesting there are

698
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:45,279
some other are points here I'm skipping

699
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:47,710
over for the sake of brevity but I think

700
00:32:54,570 --> 00:32:51,370
you get the idea how do we know products

701
00:32:57,659 --> 00:32:54,580
contain scalar energy a the water

702
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:57,669
molecule is become smaller by putting it

703
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:01,200
on the scale our product after a while

704
00:33:08,130 --> 00:33:05,350
be the cigarette will become tasteless

705
00:33:11,639 --> 00:33:08,140
by putting it on scalar energy product

706
00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:11,649
after a while see improving the taste of

707
00:33:17,789 --> 00:33:13,720
coffee and tea by putting it on scalar

708
00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:17,799
energy product after a while mm-hmm all

709
00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:20,140
right even I have to actually um stop

710
00:33:27,419 --> 00:33:24,220
before my before my tongue mutinies and

711
00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:27,429
runs out of the room now given this is

712
00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:29,020
obviously a translation from another

713
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:35,260
language to an extent ah even given the

714
00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:41,039
the poor translation the claims are just

715
00:33:48,510 --> 00:33:44,620
textbook new-age gibberish and nonsense

716
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:48,520
of course and if I go to the internet

717
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:51,290
now in 2016

718
00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:53,780
I look at the website of fusion XL dot

719
00:34:00,730 --> 00:33:58,280
org you will see the quantum pendant in

720
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,740
question as relating to the government

721
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:02,960
health warning and many other products

722
00:34:11,350 --> 00:34:09,169
of course what surprises me and a little

723
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:11,360
a little bit hard to surprise me these

724
00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:14,090
days is that the pendant in question

725
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:15,700
according to the government actually

726
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:19,720
does contain some volcanic ash or

727
00:34:26,850 --> 00:34:22,850
material that has radioactive material

728
00:34:32,020 --> 00:34:26,860
in it why this surprises me is that the

729
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:32,030
for all people know these pendants can

730
00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:34,220
just be made out of plastic or cheap

731
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:36,200
metal or or anything it really wouldn't

732
00:34:40,810 --> 00:34:39,230
matter there's no there's no way that

733
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:40,820
they can do all the things they claim

734
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:43,730
but they actually are and along the

735
00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:45,850
process some may have some sort of

736
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,350
volcanic ash which was mentioned to me

737
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:50,000
years ago at the time when i first came

738
00:34:55,630 --> 00:34:53,570
across these things which is an odd

739
00:35:00,070 --> 00:34:55,640
situation which means somewhere someone

740
00:35:03,070 --> 00:35:00,080
along the chain of command who actually

741
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:03,080
many people would believe it as is often

742
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:04,910
the case people peddling these things at

743
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:06,710
mind-body wild festivals often believed

744
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:08,810
in the proctor peddling but even higher

745
00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:10,850
up that's interesting that they've gone

746
00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:12,920
to the trouble to put this stuff in them

747
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:15,350
it was also interesting to over the

748
00:35:18,990 --> 00:35:17,000
years to have many people say there's no

749
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:19,000
such thing as a safe level of radiation

750
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:21,230
you've probably heard the same sort of

751
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:24,050
thing yet this product does have it this

752
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:27,110
product is radioactive now given it's a

753
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:29,480
very low dose it still is radioactive

754
00:35:34,540 --> 00:35:31,970
and if memory serves and I think it does

755
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:34,550
in this case the fusion XL people we're

756
00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:35,690
selling something called the quantum

757
00:35:43,450 --> 00:35:40,550
flask using presumably using this claims

758
00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:43,460
of the scalar energy and again going

759
00:35:48,670 --> 00:35:45,020
online quickly there are many examples

760
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:48,680
of this quantum flask one of the claims

761
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:52,970
made to me and at the mind-body wallet

762
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:56,510
was that if you pour water into your

763
00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:01,280
quantum flask the water then undergoes a

764
00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:03,980
mystical transformation or probably they

765
00:36:07,390 --> 00:36:05,180
would say scientific

766
00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:07,400
transformation and inherits the

767
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:11,960
properties of sun block or suntan lotion

768
00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:15,890
as you might know it and this I think

769
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:17,900
I've mentioned on the show before this

770
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,730
is one of the rare times i actually had

771
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:22,480
very strong words with the people

772
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:25,010
selling things at the mind-body wallet

773
00:36:30,849 --> 00:36:27,260
and i told them in no uncertain terms

774
00:36:33,069 --> 00:36:30,859
that this was a very stupid claim to

775
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:33,079
make and they should not do that but

776
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,170
it's so typical of a lot of these

777
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:38,240
new-age pendants and things that they

778
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:42,650
will latch on to some vaguely sciency

779
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,380
sounding thing likes Gala or in the case

780
00:36:52,089 --> 00:36:47,599
of power band it was actually the human

781
00:36:53,530 --> 00:36:52,099
residence was which is a frequency to do

782
00:36:55,329 --> 00:36:53,540
with the atmosphere and the planet but

783
00:36:57,460 --> 00:36:55,339
the frequency is huge I mean that the

784
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:57,470
waveform is huge it's just something

785
00:37:02,859 --> 00:37:00,079
they can latch on to somebody some

786
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:02,869
bright spark in and marketing years ago

787
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:05,839
thought this would be a good thing mix

788
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:09,290
it up with a bit of real science it

789
00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:12,770
becomes quite a word salad but to most

790
00:37:16,329 --> 00:37:14,270
punters out there it just sounds like

791
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:16,339
it's some sort of wonderful new science

792
00:37:20,589 --> 00:37:18,890
so again it is worth going to mind body

793
00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:20,599
spirit festivals mind-body wallet

794
00:37:24,849 --> 00:37:21,980
festivals because every now and then you

795
00:37:28,299 --> 00:37:24,859
pick up a gem but you certainly learn a

796
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:28,309
lot and in at last reading the fine

797
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:32,720
print in this ridiculous flyer I can see

798
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:34,490
that there they were making cancer

799
00:37:38,829 --> 00:37:36,650
claims which I should have picked up at

800
00:37:40,930 --> 00:37:38,839
the time nevertheless there we are

801
00:38:11,439 --> 00:37:40,940
complete with the health warning from

802
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803
00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:16,439
thinking the people who brought you dr.

804
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:20,430
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805
00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:24,660
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806
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Jane Goodall for more information and to

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get your annual pass visit pink pink dot

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00:39:35,490 --> 00:39:31,829
org dot a you let's all take this with a

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grain of salt is around second

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oh okay so i'm here with Alain Moreau

826
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that guy yeah I was only correctly yeah

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known too much of the world as captain

828
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,730
disillusion how do you pronounce your

829
00:39:57,180 --> 00:39:54,160
last name Malik janian just call me

830
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,190
captain is fun yeah thanks for having me

831
00:40:02,880 --> 00:39:59,520
thank you for being on the skeptics down

832
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:02,890
there you gave the opening talk

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00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:06,640
yesterday morning which I must say was

834
00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:10,060
I'm really fantastic because it was very

835
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:11,380
apart from the fact that it was

836
00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:13,240
informative and entertaining it was also

837
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,430
very unusual it was not what people

838
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:16,960
usually expected was up like that what

839
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:20,770
thank you I did I did you know let's be

840
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:22,840
honest I had about seven minutes of

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00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:25,260
material of legitimate you know

842
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:28,450
skepticism information to convey but I

843
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:30,580
knew I had to deliver a 50-minute talk

844
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:32,710
so I just filled it with a lot of

845
00:40:37,590 --> 00:40:35,530
production value and crazy interactive

846
00:40:39,780 --> 00:40:37,600
visuals and things like that so it

847
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:39,790
turned into like a one-man show that I

848
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:41,710
was very nervous about because it

849
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:43,270
involved a lot of like playback

850
00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:45,090
technology and little tricks and things

851
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:48,270
but yeah that's what I did it went off

852
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:51,310
relatively without any hitches and I

853
00:40:55,050 --> 00:40:53,170
really enjoy performing it the crowd was

854
00:40:57,870 --> 00:40:55,060
awesome I was very nervous going on

855
00:41:00,060 --> 00:40:57,880
first but in a way I'm glad because I

856
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,070
got another way because when I saw other

857
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:02,560
speakers after me it just became more

858
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:04,270
and more intimidating there were some

859
00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:05,860
really brilliant people on and I would

860
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:07,870
have been way too nervous to go on after

861
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:10,090
anyone else yes I must tell you from my

862
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:12,130
perspective having seen a lot of

863
00:41:17,250 --> 00:41:14,590
excellent speakers I don't think your

864
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:17,260
your you have anything to be nervous

865
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:20,290
about and maybe just for the benefit of

866
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:22,870
those who weren't there you basically

867
00:41:28,350 --> 00:41:26,560
were Allen at the intern career

868
00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:28,360
yeah interacting interacting with

869
00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:29,860
captain disillusion who was on the

870
00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:32,740
screen above you that would it's very

871
00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:35,320
difficult to actually work something

872
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:37,630
like that and make it something like

873
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,340
this work and but it worked very well

874
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:41,440
thanks yeah I'm like I said I'm glad

875
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:44,500
like the key moments that depend in a

876
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:47,050
lot of dependent on timing and things

877
00:41:51,150 --> 00:41:48,190
sort of happening at the right time

878
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:51,160
those went perfectly yeah it involved

879
00:41:56,010 --> 00:41:52,870
basically I was thinking of like how can

880
00:41:57,330 --> 00:41:56,020
I do my presentation and involve the

881
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,340
captain disillusion character which

882
00:42:01,320 --> 00:41:59,200
involves like an outfit and makeup and

883
00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:01,330
stuff without having to do all that and

884
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:03,940
also too because it's not I'm not like

885
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:06,460
performing at a comedy festival this is

886
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:08,650
a skeptic you know conference I want it

887
00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:11,110
to be a presentable person and convey

888
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:13,300
some legitimate information but also

889
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:15,190
make it entertaining so I did a thing

890
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:17,410
where the you know the conceit of the

891
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:19,330
talk was that I am an assistant and

892
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:21,490
intern for captain disillusion and he's

893
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:23,590
on his way but he can't quite make it so

894
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:26,020
I have a little sort of interactive call

895
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:29,530
with him and then I'm left on my own to

896
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:32,110
give this presentation completely

897
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:35,440
unprepared and then I go on to give all

898
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:38,650
kinds of funny you know different

899
00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:42,150
sections but basically it all adds up to

900
00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:45,420
just me explaining to people how to make

901
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:48,040
skeptical communication a little bit

902
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:51,280
more entertaining and visually like

903
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:53,890
interesting and when it comes to videos

904
00:42:57,930 --> 00:42:55,810
on YouTube which is basically which is

905
00:43:00,060 --> 00:42:57,940
essentially what you do this that's what

906
00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:00,070
your channel is so okay let's talk about

907
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:02,440
captain disillusion a little bit not the

908
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:04,330
knob bit of character but the the

909
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:07,690
youtube channel and so what do you do on

910
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:10,030
that channel um Captain decision is a

911
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,090
web series where essentially it just

912
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,280
kind of deconstructs and analyzes and

913
00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:18,880
debunks most of the time strange videos

914
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:20,260
from around the internet whether it's

915
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:23,370
paranormal ghost videos or UFO

916
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:26,710
encounters or just strange tricks and

917
00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:29,110
things that go viral online and people

918
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:31,270
are not sure if the thing is real or

919
00:43:34,990 --> 00:43:31,730
since

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00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:35,000
of hopes I as the character I take these

921
00:43:39,970 --> 00:43:37,910
videos and I just analyze mostly just

922
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:39,980
the visual effects that go into faking

923
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:43,010
the video and sometimes I kind of

924
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:46,070
venture into topics of like ethics about

925
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,530
these things or like why do people do it

926
00:43:54,070 --> 00:43:50,720
or what's right or wrong the state of

927
00:43:56,770 --> 00:43:54,080
like news reporting on things like

928
00:43:59,230 --> 00:43:56,780
things like the skepticism in the media

929
00:44:02,109 --> 00:43:59,240
but mostly it's about how visual effects

930
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:02,119
work and how you can you know just by

931
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:04,490
looking at those things you can kind of

932
00:44:09,580 --> 00:44:08,210
learn the basics of informal skepticism

933
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:09,590
that you could apply it to the rest of

934
00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:13,310
your life so obviously apply a lot of

935
00:44:22,530 --> 00:44:17,960
knowledge about how video works or

936
00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:22,540
production works but I would say from

937
00:44:28,990 --> 00:44:25,940
what I've seen in your videos is most of

938
00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:29,000
it is simply thinking and well and

939
00:44:36,670 --> 00:44:31,640
spending time to research would you

940
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:36,680
agree with that yeah it's it's like I am

941
00:44:43,210 --> 00:44:39,920
just relying on the little tiny avenue

942
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:43,220
of knowledge i have about effects to

943
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:46,310
demonstrate like how I would you know

944
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,970
how I would approach how I would

945
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:52,160
approach that area skeptically but

946
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:53,450
everyone else it's up to everyone else

947
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,690
to kind of apply that to the things that

948
00:45:00,220 --> 00:44:58,240
they know about and to you know

949
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:00,230
everything all the other issues in the

950
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:02,690
world in the same way so it's just kind

951
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:04,940
of like a little template you know I

952
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:06,410
can't talk about things I don't know

953
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:07,510
about I don't have a lot

954
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:09,730
like scientific background and not a

955
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:13,810
journalist but yeah it I think being

956
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:17,200
aware being informed is an important

957
00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:21,450
part of being a skeptic so so yeah you

958
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:25,000
you say that you're not an expert and

959
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:26,890
all of that but your channels being very

960
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:29,170
successful in fact if I remember

961
00:45:34,830 --> 00:45:30,850
correctly had recently seen on on

962
00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:34,840
Facebook photo of you with in with an

963
00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:37,780
award yeah I reached the the channel

964
00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:40,780
surpassed um well the award that little

965
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:42,580
plaque is for reaching a hundred

966
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:46,390
thousand subscribers but by the time you

967
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:48,550
know the receiving the plaque is kind of

968
00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:51,130
a process that takes time so by the time

969
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:52,630
I receive the plaques i actually had

970
00:45:57,660 --> 00:45:54,850
already at more than 200,000 subscribers

971
00:45:59,490 --> 00:45:57,670
and how many di Tomasso I think I know

972
00:46:02,630 --> 00:45:59,500
it's past 250 I haven't checked lately

973
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:02,640
but um yeah it's climbing up there I

974
00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:06,430
think you get another plaque when you

975
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,320
reach no

976
00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:10,960
or maybe yeah million and then Sassoon's

977
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:13,750
time you will see you know I'm only

978
00:46:17,010 --> 00:46:15,430
doing this for the awards you know I

979
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:17,020
just obviously yeah yeah there's no

980
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:21,190
underneath and what kind of input do or

981
00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:25,030
feedback do you get I look at other

982
00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:26,320
channels and I see a lot of you know

983
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:28,270
like people arguing and stuff and

984
00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:30,280
there's a lot of I think there's a lot

985
00:46:34,860 --> 00:46:32,500
of skeptical I'm youtubers that get a

986
00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:34,870
lot of like hate and stuff but I find

987
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:37,480
for some reason mostly on my channel

988
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:39,430
there's you know people like the videos

989
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:41,530
they have pretty intelligent discussions

990
00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:42,910
and they asked me questions and they

991
00:46:45,930 --> 00:46:44,350
give mostly you know I get a lot of

992
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:45,940
suggestions for what other videos they

993
00:46:52,830 --> 00:46:48,880
want to see be constructed there's

994
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:52,840
generally positive you know I like it I

995
00:46:59,870 --> 00:46:57,370
try not to get into like threads of

996
00:47:02,580 --> 00:46:59,880
discussions on my on my videos because

997
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:02,590
in the end at least in my case it's kind

998
00:47:06,210 --> 00:47:04,210
of entertainment and it's a character

999
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:06,220
and there's only so much you can get

1000
00:47:11,490 --> 00:47:08,770
into like philosophical or technical

1001
00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:11,500
discussions before I don't sound like

1002
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:13,150
captain disillusion anymore it's it's a

1003
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:14,610
little bit difficult to talk to people

1004
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:17,710
so I keep it as entertainment and as a

1005
00:47:23,790 --> 00:47:20,410
presentation channel so people who want

1006
00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:23,800
to see your videos make sure they go

1007
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,900
they should just look for captain

1008
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:28,000
disillusion on youtube or youtube.com

1009
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,910
slash captain disillusion I sometimes

1010
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:33,760
say things on Twitter see the letter C

1011
00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:36,370
disillusion of ads obscene disillusioned

1012
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,380
and on facebook obviously the captain

1013
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:40,720
disillusion page and I have a site

1014
00:47:44,910 --> 00:47:42,460
captain disillusion calm where you can

1015
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,920
see like a counter account down to

1016
00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:46,720
whenever the next episode is going to

1017
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:48,700
come out and they come out monthly and

1018
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:51,370
of course on patreon.com / captain

1019
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:54,400
decision is a place people can not only

1020
00:47:59,730 --> 00:47:57,250
just watch my stuff but um sign up to

1021
00:48:03,660 --> 00:47:59,740
support the show that's kind of my main

1022
00:48:05,890 --> 00:48:03,670
way of keeping captain disillusion alive

1023
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:05,900
is that people

1024
00:48:10,570 --> 00:48:08,960
the the community support the show with

1025
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:10,580
like donations and things and in

1026
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:12,170
exchange they get various

1027
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:14,000
behind-the-scenes looks at how I make

1028
00:48:17,830 --> 00:48:15,680
the series because it involves a lot of

1029
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:17,840
production a lot of visual effects and

1030
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:19,730
things like that so I give people an

1031
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:21,710
inside look at how everything happens

1032
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,050
okay so that's for people who actually

1033
00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:26,240
support the show financially is there a

1034
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:29,320
way for people who are not I can't

1035
00:48:32,980 --> 00:48:31,430
support financially for example Facebook

1036
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:32,990
as well is there a way for them to

1037
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:35,990
support the show in another way um well

1038
00:48:41,260 --> 00:48:38,510
of course just reviews and yeah you know

1039
00:48:43,330 --> 00:48:41,270
that were there isn't like yeah I'm not

1040
00:48:44,830 --> 00:48:43,340
it's not a podcast on iTunes so there

1041
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:44,840
isn't like a review system but certainly

1042
00:48:50,830 --> 00:48:47,920
simply subscribing on YouTube I think

1043
00:48:52,510 --> 00:48:50,840
helps and just kind of post you know

1044
00:48:54,730 --> 00:48:52,520
sharing the videos is really the best

1045
00:48:57,340 --> 00:48:54,740
way is there every is there a particular

1046
00:48:59,380 --> 00:48:57,350
video on your channel that actually

1047
00:49:01,630 --> 00:48:59,390
shows people a little bit more about

1048
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:01,640
your process I mean that you mentioned

1049
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:04,490
that it's for patreon oh yeah I mean

1050
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,810
well there's little behind-the-scenes

1051
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:07,520
things which I don't know maybe

1052
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,930
eventually I'll release some of those

1053
00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:10,640
one time has passed for the general

1054
00:49:14,980 --> 00:49:12,680
public but if you I mean good examples

1055
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:14,990
of episodes that maybe are like

1056
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:16,730
representative of the channel as a whole

1057
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:21,440
is like the latest 1i posted at this

1058
00:49:25,690 --> 00:49:23,570
time of this recording called the secret

1059
00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:25,700
bracelet debunk which is kind of a

1060
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:28,540
product review / critique of this

1061
00:49:35,860 --> 00:49:32,090
product concept that isn't very you know

1062
00:49:38,260 --> 00:49:35,870
I don't think is a very good product or

1063
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,270
at least the concept for it that's being

1064
00:49:44,290 --> 00:49:41,200
financed also crowdfunded so it's like a

1065
00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:44,300
technical review of a gadget and then

1066
00:49:48,940 --> 00:49:45,620
there's others want like one of my

1067
00:49:51,970 --> 00:49:48,950
popular most popular videos is the miss

1068
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:51,980
pink miss ping debunk which is just a

1069
00:49:57,940 --> 00:49:54,580
little deconstruction of a visual effect

1070
00:49:59,950 --> 00:49:57,950
a funny visual tech video where some

1071
00:50:02,980 --> 00:49:59,960
people are doing these tricks these

1072
00:50:05,260 --> 00:50:02,990
amazing feats with a ping pong paddles

1073
00:50:08,650 --> 00:50:05,270
and some ping pong balls and knives and

1074
00:50:10,270 --> 00:50:08,660
it's a it's a fun trick it's a fun thing

1075
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:10,280
to deconstruct and it's a good

1076
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:13,100
illustration of how visual effects can

1077
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:14,940
be used in

1078
00:50:20,980 --> 00:50:18,000
clever ways to make amazing things look

1079
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:20,990
real and you've had a bit of a kind of a

1080
00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:23,970
being sort of a self assault of feedback

1081
00:50:29,930 --> 00:50:26,940
mumbai india indeed it's one of the most

1082
00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:29,940
one of the most fun examples of like

1083
00:50:36,109 --> 00:50:33,540
kind of back and forth in youtube feud

1084
00:50:38,059 --> 00:50:36,119
that I've ever experienced those guys

1085
00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:38,069
after I made that video which their

1086
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:39,540
video was extremely popular and I

1087
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:41,970
suppose writing on that was the

1088
00:50:49,059 --> 00:50:45,930
popularity of my own video they redid

1089
00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:49,069
they did a remake of their video

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changing everything about the way they

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did it so that it doesn't fit the

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explanation I gave so they kind of went

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around all my explanation sort of

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proving that they did it a different way

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and they also included a little epilogue

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in which someone that very much

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resembles captain disillusion gets hit

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with a hammer in the head looks just a

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safe anything and I actually found that

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extremely funny and I think that's the

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best way to you know if you're being

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criticized by someone through a creative

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outlet criticize them back with a

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creative work of your own duty clever

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very good LMK thank you very much for

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being on the Skip Dixon thanks for

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having me greetings listeners it's me

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captain disillusion on my youtube

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channel called captain disillusion aye

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captain disillusion analyzed viral

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videos of the strange and unbelievable I

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explain how interframe video compression

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3d motion tracking and stock the effects

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elements prove that Justin Bieber is not

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a secret reptilian alien that those

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videos of ghost cars are just

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unintentional optical illusions and that

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lightning did not strike a few feet away

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from a girl on a beach as we saw on the

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news I'm real fun at parties my best

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friend is a lens flare eat a dimmer

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switch disillusion I do know other

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people sometimes they even show up in my

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videos people like skepticism is grandpa

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james randi sirve de Soleil Acrobat

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Erica Lynn's weight loss enthusiast Penn

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Jillette and the actual Beekman

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beekman's world I hope you'll check out

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my adventures interact with me in a

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platonic way and even consider becoming

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a patron of my work you can do all that

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and more on youtube or at captain

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thank you for listening to the skeptic

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zone now folks it's not long now for the

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Australian skeptics national convention

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in Melbourne wonderful Melbourne 25th of

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the 27th of November check out the

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website convention skeptics calm today

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you I'm sure you'll have a wonderful

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time meeting such dignitaries or guests

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as Ed's odd Ernst and Michael Marshall

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00:53:10,780 --> 00:53:08,840
and a host of other really interesting

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speakers the Australian skeptics

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00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:12,650
national convention all hairy at all too

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00:53:16,570 --> 00:53:14,810
well she'd be worth the price of

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admission alone Lawrence Krauss good

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heavens the list goes on it's always a

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00:53:22,570 --> 00:53:20,840
wonderful time the Australian skeptics

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National Convention check out that

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website for more details and of course

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coming up in the first week in december

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if you're in New Zealand you can come to

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the New Zealand skeptics conference head

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for conference dot skeptics got n Z and

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again a host of wonderful speakers and

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I'm lucky enough to be appearing there

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myself with my good friends are was

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Susan Grbac Loretta Marin known as the

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jellybean lady and a host of other good

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speakers in beautiful Queenstown and

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that is in the first week in december in

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fact from the second to the fourth of

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december and added to that if you're in

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the berkeley area at the moment i think

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I'm slated to be speaking in berkeley in

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california on the twenty-ninth but i

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will keep you up to date on that

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information as we firm that up thank you

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to all those lovely wonderful helpful

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generous people who contribute to the

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TV via patreon or just by our micro

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informations there and your

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contributions mean the show keeps going

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there's no other way to state that it's

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true if people stop contributing to the

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show i simply could not do it anymore

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and my reporters would be very unhappy

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or happy maybe they'd be quite relieved

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i don't know i would hope hello

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reporters is i hope they would be

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unhappy if the show stopped maybe they'd

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get a bit of rest i don't know but thank

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you everybody thank you very much

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sincerely for helping to keep the

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reporters a big congratulations to our

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reporter Maynard who just spent the last

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couple of weeks on the road in the air

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on buses all sorts of things taxis

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fronting the vengaboys tour that's why

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man ads been a little bit quiet lately

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00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,570
or if you follow him on Twitter or

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Facebook he's not been a little bit

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quiet hehe did a wonderful job by all

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accounts I saw some photographs Maynard

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was posting a few videos from the tour

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if you want to find out more about what

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Maenads been up to and hear his podcasts

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and videos and all sorts of things

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Maynard dot-com dot a you oh and a note

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to any radio producers out there if you

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would like to use a segment from the

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show rebroadcast it so to speak just

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drop me a line my contact details where

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it's kept exam TV and have a chat to me

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and i am very likely to say yes why not

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the more people that he ran segments and

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interviews from the skeptic zone the

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better but for this week this is Richard

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Saunders signing off from Sydney

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